[Osem]

More objective? Really? I don't suppose they'd have anything to gain by seeing the UK not being able to compete with them as well as it might. To continue to benefit from our net contribution to their pockets. Other countries have every self serving reason to want us to be shackled to the EU. If you were a member of my club and paying a lot more in subs than anyone else for sweet fa extra in return I'd want you to stay in mate whether I liked you or not.

I know you can't recall it but there really was life before the EU and the UK did rather well for the most part. Those without the UK who have an opinion are probably going to put their interests first rather than ours wouldn't you say? The only people who have anything directly to gain by us leaving is us and as I've stated many times the decision comes down to how much you value sovereignty, our ability to decide our own destiny and all that goes with it. I have confidence that the UK can survive without being part of the EU and do so quite nicely thanks. I also believe that the costs of being in the EU are going to be huge in all sorts of ways and I'd rather we weren't in the club when the wheels finally come off. I value what the UK is and can be far above short term blips in GDP, the value or Sterling etc. and it's perfectly clear to me that the EU is going to impose upon us an ever increasing burden in terms of our contribution, migration and control of our laws, institutions etc. That is their raison d'etre after all. I can see why voting to stay in might be the easier option for some people but IMHO it's the wrong one and over the last few years, the reasons are plain to see across Europe. If things in the EU were tickety boo I could understand why folks might want to stay in but what's been going on in Europe since 2008? Every crisis faced has been handled badly and it's still happening now. How bad does it have to get before people accept that the EU doesn't work and doesn't want to be fixed?...