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Old 09-04-2016, 23:11   #1443
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Re: Unstoppable migration?

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
Imminent or not, the fact remains that we can't stop EU migration and that includes any refugees who're given ultimately given asylum. I don't know about you but I don't take much comfort from delaying the inevitable and with the numbers arriving in Greece still huge, how long do you think it'll be before new fast track measures are put in place to disperse them? If we're still inside the EU and bound by the free movement rules we can't do anything about that.
That is total guesswork on your part based upon ill-founded hysteria. Even if refugees in other EU countries are, eventually, given permanent residency in other EU countries we are not part of the agreement to accept them here. Denmark and Ireland are also immune.

Belgium has an awful lot to learn about how to integrate immigrants. Their mistakes have been dire.

Other countries who have taken refugees and asylum seekers, whose current cultural frame of mind might be at odds with theirs, have made mistakes with distribution, housing them, education facilities, policing and enforcement and employing them.

These are people who have had to escape the horrors of total war, who rather be safe in their homeland and who have been pummeled with warped images of the west and have endured life under a Jihadist administration for many months. Coming to Europe has been a total culture shock. European countries should have anticipated this as they carried out their obligations of the Geneva Convention.

It is no use demonising these desperate and damaged people. We should be sheltering and nurturing them, whilst protecting ourselves. Not rocket science.


Unfortunately there are people in this discussion who have picked up on the disgraceful rhetoric of Farage, et al, who seems to have his speeches written for him by ISIS. ISIS rub their hands with glee at every sign of hate and misinformation directed at Muslim refugees. They love anything that destabilises European society or the EU. Why else do they bomb our cities and continue to drive refugees north? They have Farage and his ilk totally suckered, and at our expense.

We need to get a grip and work with other European countries, EU and non-EU. This is a global and continental problem that would exist without the EU.
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