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Originally Posted by Mr K
3 months left to go yet. Both sides can and will use all the dirty tactics they can; they're going to scrape the barrel lower because they believe that works. It does a lot of the time, depressingly.
There's a danger the public will switch off completely or believe some of the tripe being spouted and make a decision they regret. This is incredibly important, but we're just getting negative scare from both sides. We need more of the positives of either staying or going. I believe we're better staying, but many haven't made their minds up and need facts and figures, not Project Fear.
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That is the most sensible post you have made in this thread and you are correct.
Both sides are using scaremongering instead of reasoned debate.
Let's have a look at the benefits expressed so far in this thread for remaining in.
EXPORTS:
Do you really think they will stop immediately with a Brexit vote. Yes the trade deal will be renegotiated but the Status Quo will still exist until that time. Germany cannot afford it not to,
IMPORTS
Germany would not to give up that trade but we will be free to negotiate not just with our Commonwealth countries without restriction but also with the rest of the world. Don't forget trade deals are a two way street. I'll buy off you if you buy off me.
WTD
In 1974 no-one was contractually required to work more than 40hrs a week. Anything over and above that was by choice and had nothing to do with the EU (it was 2 years in the making with the involvement of the unions) as it was only the EC then, just a closer trading partner.
The 48hr limit later
imposed by the EU (as it became) only affected workers who were willing to do overtime and stopped them earning extra money.
JOBS & SERVICE INDUSTRIES
Jobs will come and go as they always have. Just now we've been told our steel industry is being sold off with the loss of a few thousand jobs due to competition with China. If we had a trade deal with China there may have still been job losses in the steel industry but opportunities elsewhere. That's what trade deals do (see imports above).
Service industries not being able to recruit the best from the rest of Europe? What a load of twaddle! Industry has always been able to recruit from anywhere in the world if the skillset is not available in the home country. Just look at the Govenor of The Bank of England. He wasn't an EU resident.
I could go on but IMHO we gain nothing from being a member of the EU but have to pay for the privaledge.
Better out.