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Originally Posted by Osem
I'd like to know what makes those who're certain that we should stay in the EU believe that what's happening across Europe right now is some sort of blip and it'll all work out in the end. It's not as though the EU is booming and everyone's united in a common cause. The absolute reverse is the case with the EU fragmenting to the extent that the financial crisis going on in Greece (and elsewhere) has been forgotten about. Isn't that just about the best possible indication anyone could have that the EU is already broken? After decades of trying to make it work, it's not as though the EU's riding high, an example to the rest of the world, is it? It's not as though they can seriously tell us we're lucky to be the EU's second largest net contributor whilst at the same time selling them less than they sell us. .
Of course the IN brigade might be fully aware of how bad the EU's future looks but still believe we'd be better off inside it, in which case I'd ask why?
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Indeed. I can't for the life of me understand it either. Why stay in something that's crumbling around your ears? What really frightens me about remaining is the terrorists. I know we have our own but I honestly believe that remaining will heighten the risk to the UK. Hell, they couldn't even get that right. They arrest a man sure he's the one they are looking for and it turns out it isn't and the let him go, probably to commit a terrorist act elsewhere. How could they let him go if they found evidence in his flat? The best we could hope for was to charge him with a lesser offence. Apparently, their justice system doesn't work the way ours does. In the UK we would have probably found something to hold him on.
That aside, I think the EU will turn into a bloodbath before too long with all this terrorism. They appear to be leaving the UK alone so why not get out while the getting's good? If we vote to remain, will they then start to attack the UK?
Greece will bring down the EU eventually and probably cause another world economic crash. They can't keep bailing them out.
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Both sides seem to forget Ockham's Razor 
Don't multiply needless assumptions. Yet that is exactly the raison d'etre of project fear. |
As there is fear being used on both sides of the fence, I wonder if it comes down to who can promote the most fear as to whether we remain or not?