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**Hugh** · 24-03-2016, 13:20

Actually, I am leaning towards voting to leave, but on the cusp, and if someone could provide factual information, it would influence me - however, it's seems to be mainly lack of substance emotive sweeping statements like 'oh noes, we will have an economic crash if we leave' from the Stay In group, or 'we can only have secure borders if we leave' from the Leavers, which neither side seems to want to substantiate, or if they do, they provide no detail or substance.

Both sides seem to be trading on fear, doubt, and uncertainty, so I feel like wishing a plague in both their houses...

I am watching Daily Politics, and the Brexit speaker conflates secure borders and not being able to kick out people who break our laws - I agree with the second point, but the first point is just a meaningless soundbite, because no one will give any details of how they would better secure our borders...

24-03-2016, 13:20	#1024
Hugh laeva recumbens anguis Cable Forum Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 68 Services: Premiere Collection Posts: 43,814	re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU Actually, I am leaning towards voting to leave, but on the cusp, and if someone could provide factual information, it would influence me - however, it's seems to be mainly lack of substance emotive sweeping statements like 'oh noes, we will have an economic crash if we leave' from the Stay In group, or 'we can only have secure borders if we leave' from the Leavers, which neither side seems to want to substantiate, or if they do, they provide no detail or substance. Both sides seem to be trading on fear, doubt, and uncertainty, so I feel like wishing a plague in both their houses... I am watching Daily Politics, and the Brexit speaker conflates secure borders and not being able to kick out people who break our laws - I agree with the second point, but the first point is just a meaningless soundbite, because no one will give any details of how they would better secure our borders... __________________ Thank you for calling the Abyss. If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare. If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.