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Old 22-03-2016, 07:53   #955
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
I think everyone thinks that their doom scenario is more likely than their opponents doom scenario. The question is if it's fair to invoke scaremongering or not.

I think it's fine. You play the game you've been given and dire warnings do work. We saw that in the general election and the Scottish referendum. It may not be debate we want to see but high minded debate is less effective.

What I do dislike though is one side accusing the other of fear mongering and doing the same themselves. There is plenty of scaremongering from both sides. Doesn't mean that it's all false either.
It clearly isn't all false, the UK has a great deal of experience at the hands of EU and even more experience of going it alone fairly successfully. I don't know of anyone who believes getting out will be a panacea but virtually all of them believe the EU's undeniable obsession with such things as ever closer union, open borders and a single currency makes staying in the really scary option.

If we stay in we're going to be treated like a spoilt child who made yet another fuss, stamped their feet and threatened to leave home, was given the chance to do so but then didn't because they were too scared to go it alone. Our credibility in the EU and the world will not be improved by staying in, quite the reverse I believe. The only way to reform the EU into what it could and should have been is for the UK to get out and for other countries to then seek their own referenda. Drastic action is required to save Europe from the EU.
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