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Originally Posted by Osem
They're just doing what they think serves their members best as opposed to what's best for the country and its people.
Let nobody think the EU has our interests at heart any more than we have theirs. They'd rather like the UK to carry on putting vastly more in the we're getting out whilst denying us any of the significant reform we've argued for. They're banking on the electorate being too scared to go it alone which is why they've offered sweet FA by way of real concessions and change. Let's be honest, who wouldn't like to have a club member who pays in more than 99% of the other members do, gets less out, is routinely ignored at the highest level and keeps coming back for more of the same old, same old?...
Like it or not, the only way we can have a meaningful and fair trading relationship with the EU is to call their bluff, get out and let them see how life is without the UK's contribution to their club. I believe we'll have more clout outside than inside because the EU has become accustomed to shafting us while we bend over and ask for more.
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Couldn't have put it better myself. Without the UK I believe the EU is doomed, not that it isn't anyway but I mean the end will come quicker without us. What will they do if we leave? Perhaps they will increase the other members donations. If we leave they will be falling over themselves to get a good and fair trade agreement with the UK to try and save their sorry arses.
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Originally Posted by techguyone
I'm still waiting for some people in favour of staying to speak up and put their reasoning forward so as to offer an alternative pov
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Can't see that happening. All they can do is spread doom and gloom.