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Old 17-03-2016, 19:13   #1386
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Re: Unstoppable migration?

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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
That's the way I'm seeing it too, especially as the most recent and easiest-found guidelines don't seem to feature the word "only". I don't really have much of a problem knowing food I eat is halal, it doesn't taste any different and when I'm that hungry the principles regarding whether or not the shop/restaurant should be preparing it for the majority or minority of its customers go out of the window - hunger comes first to be honest. And if they don't offer pork "in case it offends" etc I'll just go somewhere else, there are plenty of other places around here that sell bacon or sausages.

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Again, very vague. A politician saying what the government's position is, rather than stating an actual clear 'law'. If halal preparation was specifically and unequivocally for Muslim consumption 'only' you'd think it would be set out that way in some legal text. This not seemingly the case makes the interpretation quite ambiguous.



Again, verified numbers of examples seem very hard to come by which leaves people free to interpret the situation as either "Many places are removing (or banning if you want to be dramatic) pork from their menus" or "A few places are removing pork from their menus", depending on political leanings.
The Law
The Welfare of Animals at the Time of Killing (England) Regulations 2015
Quote:
Schedule 3
Interpretation
1. In this Schedule—
(a) “bovine animal” means an ox, bullock, cow, heifer, steer or calf;
(b) “bird” means a turkey, domestic fowl, guinea-fowl, duck, goose or quail;
(c) “killing in accordance with religious rites” means killing without the infliction of
unnecessary suffering—
(i) by the Jewish method (Shechita) for the food of Jews by a Jew who is licensed by
the Rabbinical Commission and holds a certificate for that purpose, or
(ii) by the Muslim method (Halal) for the food of Muslims by a Muslim who holds a
certificate for that purpose.
...
General prohibition
2. No person may kill an animal in accordance with religious rites without prior stunning unless it is a sheep, goat, bovine animal or bird killed in a slaughterhouse in accordance with this Schedule.
Several councils have admitted to it. Islington gave the LIE that it was to avoid extra costs in deciding who shouldn't be given pork. The reason it is a lie is that the other meats(eg lamb, chicken) would also have to be Halal. It is not stated that they are Halal, therefore the claimed problem still exists. If it is all Halal then that must have been a requirement of the menu, thereby automatically banning pork.
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