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Old 17-03-2016, 11:21   #899
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
No, we didn't - any more than Scotland voted for separation by electing the SNP, as the outcome of the 2014 referendum proved.

We elect a government with a broad manifesto. Nobody is in love with every line of that manifesto; it's just a matter of picking the one that's the best fit with your own views.

An EU referendum has not been a top priority until now. That's not to say it wouldn't have been welcomed, had it happened. In fact, with the state the EU is now in, I'd say the stars have aligned quite nicely.
Two points:
One of the main aspirations of the SNP is independence and aren't they already mumbling about having another go party based on the mandate inferred by their majority (didn't really want to take this thread to far off course - sure there's a thread for this elsewhere)

I accept (sadly) that manifestos are usually lacking, but using your logic if the stance on Europe was important then more people would/could/should have moved it up their list of priorities when selecting the manifesto that best suited them. We have had choice but the election results show (using your manifesto argument) that our relationship with Europe is well down the electorates list of priorities.
As you know, the government is elected to represent our best interests on a national and international level. We 'trust' them to do the job on our behalf and as such we have voted to stay in Europe every time we've elected a pro-european party.

Now I'm not saying our past actions have been right or wrong, I'm just saying it as I see it. I think many of you would be surprised to know I'm leaning more to out as the days tick by.

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