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Old 14-03-2016, 18:04   #865
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

I say leave Russia to the Russians and get to grips with the pathetic reality that the UK has managed to achieve virtually zero reform of the EEC/EU from the inside. Not only that but in spite of wanting us to stay in, Cameron has been offered diddly squat at a time when there's a very reasonable possibility that we'll pull out. All of that strongly suggests to me that a) the EU can't/won't be reformed, b) they've never wanted the UK's preferred vision of Europe, c) they'd rather we leave than change and d) if we don't leave we can expect to have even less influence because any threat of the EU's second largest net contributor upping sticks will have gone. They'll have won the battle of wills and we'll be condemned to the EU's very own version of a nightmare.
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