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Originally Posted by martyh

Problem is that most of those "childrens centers" where opened under a Labour government using money we did not have ,a policy that Labour has now said was wrong ,indeed John McDonnell(shadow chancellor) said only yesterday that Labour needs to regain the public trust on it's spending policies ,he says that safeguards must be put in place to stop any future Labour government overspending

Ok, you are happy for children centres to go because they were created by Labour. What about services that Labour did not instigate?

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Originally Posted by martyh

Simple answer to that is because in 1979 the standard income tax rate under the then Labour government was 33% and the higher rate was 80% ,we had at the time some of the most punitive tax rates in the world

This is not an answer for the problems today. This was 38 years ago, almost two generations ..

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Originally Posted by martyh

Problem is that most of those "childrens centers" where opened under a Labour government using money we did not have ,a policy that Labour has now said was wrong ,indeed John McDonnell(shadow chancellor) said only yesterday that Labour needs to regain the public trust on it's spending policies ,he says that safeguards must be put in place to stop any future Labour government overspending

from: https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...lgg-conference

As we start 2012, one area right at the top of our agenda - mine, my Department’s and, hopefully, yours - is policy around young people.

Non ring-fenced funding of £2.365 billion in 2012-13 will help Local Authorities to provide Early Intervention services for vulnerable children, young people and families. And for the particular needs of young people and their families, Local Authorities can also draw on the Revenue Support Grant and, from 2013, the Public Health Grant

Quote from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim Loughton, at the time Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Children and Families ..