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Old 03-03-2016, 22:00   #21
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Re: Are these five channels encrypted on VM?

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
AIUI, it's not illegal, but it is against VM t&c's. As non VM customers, these people haven't agreed to any VM terms and conditions.
It may not be illegal, but at the same time Virgin Media are under no obligation to allow it.

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Even if these were enforceable, my friend has not connected any unauthorised equipment to the VM network- it's as it was left by a VM engineer after installation and since cancellation of VM TV services.
Which may be the case for the older V box system. As I've previously said, TiVo now works in a different way and due it's internal and constant requirement to be authorised, you can't do the same with TiVo as you can with a V box.

As the V box platform is retired in favour of TiVo, then so the ability to view channels without an active subscription to Virgin Media will cease. If you wish to view channels subscription free, then there are alternative platforms available in the UK.

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* There is a long standing disagreement between those with technical knowledge about such matters, that connecting non VM equipment to the network can push noise back out into the network and thus affect other viewers.
It's less likely now that analogue TV is not broadcast over cable, so you don't have people sticking the bare coax cable in the back of the TV, and with the improved encryption of the Smartcard swap out a few years back, and now the internal encryption for TiVo, the ability to connect fully illegal boxes is diminished.

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Indeed, I believe that there are/were places in the UK where TV aerials weren't allowed and householders were advised to connect the supplied VM feed directly to their TV set (I'm unsure if this still happens with the advent of digital)
That only applied to analogue, where ntl and Telewest rebroadcast the core terrestrial channels in the range a standard UK TV could tune to. It has never applied to digital cable.
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