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Originally Posted by Hugh
Does that mean you were "lying"?  |
No it means I couldn't think of a better word to describe the sort of pressure being applied and the apparent unwillingness of said global leaders to concede there are alternatives to the Brexit = Doom scenario.
The scare tactics are on both sides and it does nobody's argument any good. What we should be entitled to is clear, unbiased statistics where that's possible and then it's down to a combination of experience, intuition and gut feeling to decide on whether we feel the EU is capable of the reform that many people believe is required but still can't seem to drive through due to the various competing national interests.
Brexit doesn't have to result in chaos but there's no doubt that could be the result if the powers that be decide to let that happen. They're in charge, they can negotiate new deals if they want to and if we're really saying that's impossible, I reckon that's an admission that the EU is fundamentally flawed.
Over coming months events in Europe are going to play a big part in the outcome. If there's more chaos, bickering and backstabbing in Europe that will serve the out campaign well. If things calm down and take a turn for the better that has to favour those who feel getting out is either totally the wrong thing or that proportion who'd like to get out but feel doing so is simply too big a risk to take.
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Originally Posted by techguyone
Is it me or is the interval between depressions or credit crunches or shocks to the economy getting shorter, given our ongoing cuts to everything, we're not out of the last one yet, let alone ready for another. Osbourne is going to cop for it if his great economic strategy hasn't worked, lets not forget we've had cuts for getting on ten years now. I'm not sure the public will tolerate never ending cuts forever.
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Whatever he's done right or wrong, Osborne isn't to blame for what's going on in China which is one of the biggest reasons for the current problems we're facing.
Like it or not, there are far more people wanting their share of the spoils of economic success and the cake is only so big. My feeling is that the public are going to get cuts whether they like it or not and regardless of who's in power. The world has changed massively in the last decade or two and what we're now in are very dangerous waters for which no politician has the charts.