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Old 26-02-2016, 17:33   #678
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
Norway is used because, until all the flaws of their arrangement where pointed out, it was used as an example by some of those advocating for Out. But fine I'll stop using it. The other trade deals, the European Convention and those other organisations still show that sovereignty as Out promises is disingenuous and ignores the reality of how the world works now.

The EU is a further ceding of sovereignty in return for benefits you may or may not think are worth it. Voting to leave or remain is not a black and white choice of being sovereign or not either, just the scale of it.

I don't believe anyone of note has ever held up Norway as a template for the UK's arrangement with the EU.

What many people have done is point out that countries like Norway and Switzerland have come to their own arrangements, and that a Norway-like arrangement could be brokered for the UK.

I appreciate it's a subtle difference, but there it is.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
The same was said of the Swiss when they failed to join based on less than 1% of the referendum vote and they got a significantly better deal than norway as a prelude for membership
Well that's exactly it - there is no one-size-fits-all arrangement for non-EU members of the EEA. It depends on the unique circumstances in each case.
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