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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Exactly. That's why we need to get out. If we don't, we are doomed as an independent nation. It's as simple as that.
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So why on earth were you quoting/posting a 'smokescreen' like that? 
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It's not a smokescreen it's a valid point. I am posting it because I am contesting your notion that this is about if we're a sovereign nation or not. Sovereignty is not a black and white issue and there will remain issues on which we do not have complete sovereignty over if we left the EU.
It's not a question of sovereignty it's a matter of what specifically we want and do not want. Which resources and powers we pool together and which we reserve for ourselves. It's a question of degrees not absolutes.