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ntluser · 20-02-2016, 17:08

It will be interesting to see how member of the public react when they hear the details of the deal.

Interesting too that the Cabinet itself is split on the benefits of staying in the EU. I suppose Boris will vote with Dave...eventually

Unlike previous elections all voters really need to ask searching questions particularly about the financing of the EU and what the deal means for migration.

A lot will find, as some have said, that the changes are so minor that the EU will merely carry on business as usual wasting taxpayers money.

The problem for the public is that there are so many vested interests all trying to get the decision to go their way. David Cameron and the Consrvatives obviously want it to go their way but so do the SNP and the Lib Dems. UKIP obviously want to get us out. Big companies want us to stay in but small businesses want us to leave. The other EU countries want us in as they will have to make up the UK contribution if the UK leaves.

There's also the issue of trust. Can you really rely on politicians to tell the truth? Or will they simply act in their own personal or party interests. Most of us will have to rely on the pundits and the media for help in making a decision.

It might well be worth remembering too that when Edward Heath took us into Europe it was on a trading basis in what was known as the Common Market. Nothing was said then about political union, at least not to the public.

I'm just wondering if, following the Maestricht treaty, we are perhaps no longer able to leave the EU but no-one wants to admit that.

The next few months will no doubt the filled with vigorous campaigning with the usual scaremongering on both sides, indeed the old "leap in the dark" mantra if we leave as already been requoted.

The floating voters will be crucial. I'm just hoping that they are willing to do the necessary research to understand the issues and the significance of the vote, rather than vote to stay because it feels safe and comfortable.

It will be very interesting to see how this all turns out.

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ntluser cf.mega poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester Age: 78 Services: Virgin Media XL Telephone,TV with Tivo box & Superhub3 upto 150Mb Broadband, Sky World, & Freeview+ Posts: 1,901	re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU It will be interesting to see how member of the public react when they hear the details of the deal. Interesting too that the Cabinet itself is split on the benefits of staying in the EU. I suppose Boris will vote with Dave...eventually Unlike previous elections all voters really need to ask searching questions particularly about the financing of the EU and what the deal means for migration. A lot will find, as some have said, that the changes are so minor that the EU will merely carry on business as usual wasting taxpayers money. The problem for the public is that there are so many vested interests all trying to get the decision to go their way. David Cameron and the Consrvatives obviously want it to go their way but so do the SNP and the Lib Dems. UKIP obviously want to get us out. Big companies want us to stay in but small businesses want us to leave. The other EU countries want us in as they will have to make up the UK contribution if the UK leaves. There's also the issue of trust. Can you really rely on politicians to tell the truth? Or will they simply act in their own personal or party interests. Most of us will have to rely on the pundits and the media for help in making a decision. It might well be worth remembering too that when Edward Heath took us into Europe it was on a trading basis in what was known as the Common Market. Nothing was said then about political union, at least not to the public. I'm just wondering if, following the Maestricht treaty, we are perhaps no longer able to leave the EU but no-one wants to admit that. The next few months will no doubt the filled with vigorous campaigning with the usual scaremongering on both sides, indeed the old "leap in the dark" mantra if we leave as already been requoted. The floating voters will be crucial. I'm just hoping that they are willing to do the necessary research to understand the issues and the significance of the vote, rather than vote to stay because it feels safe and comfortable. It will be very interesting to see how this all turns out.