[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Who are the rivals and what are increasingly offering more than VM?

There is still only one real rival, Sky, and their advantages over VM have been the same for several years, namely Sky Atlantic. VM countered some of that for sports fans by adding BT sport.

Until VM reveal their answer to Sky Q, and Sky Q hits peoples homes, which is a month away, you can't justifiably factor that in.

So what else has changed recently? BT got AMC but that doesn't make up for the lack of other channels compared to VM. Sky will be adding Showtime content. I think that Sky got many of the Showtime content anyway.

It seems to me that the Sky Q announcement, which without doubt is impressive, has made some people lose perspective of the true differences between Sky and VM which simply boils down to Sky Atlantic, which has been the same for several years.

Now if VM doesn't come up with an answer to Sky Q, then there is a point to make. But why aren't people prepared to wait for VM's response to Sky Q before deciding that VM's service is now poor in comparison to Sky?

I agree, PB.

The frustration is down to the lack of decent new channels and streaming services, slow Tivo speeds and the feeling that Sky is hogging content with more exclusive deals. So I think Den is right in that sense, and VM really need to offer additional content that sets it apart from Sky, but in a good way. The new streaming music channels are an advance, but VM customers seem to be demanding more.