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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
No-one said there was no ducting for telecoms and I've no idea why Openreach should have a USO on them to supply open-access ducts for new build; it should be on the developer's shoulders, not Openreach.
The complaint was about broadband. Ran into much the same issues here as discussed and still do have them.
A solution is, as Tom Mockridge has suggested:
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By putting a USO on Openreach would then give them "right to access" by default.
Lets not forget that once the new built estates are completed, they are "handed over" to the owners of the new houses. The bulk of those electricity, gas, water pipes/cables then run under public roads and pavements. It's the situation before the handover which is the issue here, as those public pavements and roads are not public until the developer hands them over.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
FFS, that is was pretty much my point. Developers, such as Barratts will not put in the infrastructure, which is what the article was bemoaning, because a) who pays for it and b) who owns it
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OPenreach. Openreach.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
And how would they do that without installing infrastructure? Fairy dust?
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Openreach installs it, pays for it, owns it, maintains it.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
It's the same thing, the infrastructure requires for open reach to provide telephony and Internet is the same fir broadband cables, when you get to residential developments it would be twisted pair from a nearby or new cab.
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No, no, no.... for new builds, why bother with copper wires?
The only reason copper wires are used, as it was/is a cheap way for BT to provide internet access. For new builds, it should be a legal requirement on Openreach to provide open access ducting to all and/or, provide fibre optic cables to all.
Dump the copper wires in the bin where they belong along with the ugly street cabinets.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
So you would force openreach to pay for the infrastructure to be built, but then give other operators access to the ducts?
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Yes, or Openreach would blow the fibre cables along the ducts themselves and allow other operators access to that cable, to light it up.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Ease of installation isn't the issue.
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Correct, it's access. It's no different to the electricity network, gas network, or water networks.
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
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Just reading this now, you should post this on your original thread too.
All I can say is, what a mess! I thought you were in the council areas of Middleton where VM had ducting but no cables, or at least that's what I thought you said on your thread. Didn't realise you were in a new build area.
It'll probably take me 2 or 3 reads of your blog it to properly digest, then I might say something on your original thread. Having been on American forums this evening, an American idea/solution is forming in my head...