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Osem · 23-01-2016, 13:29

Just been listening to a debate on this on LBC. Thankfully most callers have grasped the enormity of this problem and where it's rapidly heading. Sadly there are still a few well intentioned but misguided people who bang on about the small percentage of the total EU population the current tranche of migrants represents etc. etc. What they refuse to acknowledge is that, unless we act, that small percentage will grow as ever more migrants come and sooner or later we'll have to say no. We could clear Turkey, Lebanon, Syria of migrants yet it wouldn't signal the end of the problem, rather it would send a signal to the countless millions left, all just as desperate and equally willing to take similarly extreme means by which to enter the EU, inspired by those who've already made it thorugh. This is incontrovertible. The only question is at what point do we have to say enough is enough? How much do we allow our way of life to be irreversibly affected before we do something or do we bite the bullet before the worst happens? Like it or not, that decision will have to be made and the measures required to prevent 'forced' migration will have to be severe. Frankly, I'd prefer it if we didn't wait for even more of the world's needy to decide to start heading our way because once on the move they're not going to be easily dealt with.

To those who dispute the need to do anything (the let them all in brigade) despite the huge problems being experienced in numerous EU countries, I'd ask a) at what point they'd feel we'd done enough (1m migrants? 2m? 10m? 50m? 100m?) and b) what would they then suggest we do to prevent the rest of the world's poor turning up on our doorsteps demanding a better life. I won't be holding my breath waiting for any sensible answers, however. I've yet to hear any of these people even accept the basic premise because to do so would expose the fatal flaw in their argument.

I dare say there were those who, in the run up to WWII, refused to believe how serious things were getting because their towns weren't being razed to the ground. Head in the sad mentality. Right now there are millions of migrants either already within the EU or trying to knock the doors down. We in the UK are not at the very sharp end yet but then, the Germans weren't really either until Merkel opened her mouth. They now know what people here should be aware of. If we don't stop this flood of migrants it will become a deluge and there'll be no stopping it.

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Osem Inactive Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Right here! Posts: 22,315	Re: Unstoppable migration? Just been listening to a debate on this on LBC. Thankfully most callers have grasped the enormity of this problem and where it's rapidly heading. Sadly there are still a few well intentioned but misguided people who bang on about the small percentage of the total EU population the current tranche of migrants represents etc. etc. What they refuse to acknowledge is that, unless we act, that small percentage will grow as ever more migrants come and sooner or later we'll have to say no. We could clear Turkey, Lebanon, Syria of migrants yet it wouldn't signal the end of the problem, rather it would send a signal to the countless millions left, all just as desperate and equally willing to take similarly extreme means by which to enter the EU, inspired by those who've already made it thorugh. This is incontrovertible. The only question is at what point do we have to say enough is enough? How much do we allow our way of life to be irreversibly affected before we do something or do we bite the bullet before the worst happens? Like it or not, that decision will have to be made and the measures required to prevent 'forced' migration will have to be severe. Frankly, I'd prefer it if we didn't wait for even more of the world's needy to decide to start heading our way because once on the move they're not going to be easily dealt with. To those who dispute the need to do anything (the let them all in brigade) despite the huge problems being experienced in numerous EU countries, I'd ask a) at what point they'd feel we'd done enough (1m migrants? 2m? 10m? 50m? 100m?) and b) what would they then suggest we do to prevent the rest of the world's poor turning up on our doorsteps demanding a better life. I won't be holding my breath waiting for any sensible answers, however. I've yet to hear any of these people even accept the basic premise because to do so would expose the fatal flaw in their argument. I dare say there were those who, in the run up to WWII, refused to believe how serious things were getting because their towns weren't being razed to the ground. Head in the sad mentality. Right now there are millions of migrants either already within the EU or trying to knock the doors down. We in the UK are not at the very sharp end yet but then, the Germans weren't really either until Merkel opened her mouth. They now know what people here should be aware of. If we don't stop this flood of migrants it will become a deluge and there'll be no stopping it.