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Old 09-01-2016, 15:33   #1072
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Re: Unstoppable migration?

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
Of course the cultural differences being alluded to here ought to have been considered by those who decided that they'd simply open the floodgates to all and sundry without a thought about how to deal with the masses. As it is, there's a growing number of people* within the EU who, left to their own devices, aren't going to integrate and are going to prove a serious problem in one way or another. There's also all of those who've been traumatised and otherwise damaged by their awful experiences who're similarly likely to have serious problems unless they're given the long term support, counselling etc. required to help them recover. Given that we're clearly struggling to cope with our existing vulnerable, mentally ill etc., I have no idea how the resources necessary to stop such people descending (or being drawn into by others) into depression, drugs, criminality etc. are going to be found. I suspect the money/resources won't be found and what will happen is that these people will largely be left to get on with it and in time the rest of us will be required to pick up the pieces.

(* and given the huge numbers it doesn't have to be a large percentage to be a very serious issue)
Trouble is, I don't see what choice we had. We could not push the refugees back in the sea or back into Turkey could we? Given that the west created the problems that are causing the migration we had to do something and even if we hadn't caused the problem we couldn't have left 100s of thousands of men, women and children to almost certain death.

The last mass migration within Europe was just before and just after WW2. On those occasions prejudice was directed at the migrant Jews with their different dress, food, Jewish courts and their synagogues springing up all over the place. We solved the problem by allowing the creation of Israel, the biggest strategic mistake of the 20th Century. Those that stayed in Europe long-term have integrated very well indeed.

We have no such option today, so we have to be imaginative, proactive at the same time as welcoming until such time as Syria and Iraq are peaceful and secure enough to return to. Most will return to Syria and Iraq because that is their beloved home, where their neighbours lived and their ancestors
rest in peace. Put yourself in their position. You would want to return home, as did most non-Jewish migrants displaced by WW2.

There will be more problems with a minority of migrants. That will have to be dealt with by proper policing and enforcement. At the same time most migrants will begin to make a contribution to their host nations. These are often professional people, who had resources and networks in their ravaged homelands. They will mostly be an asset here until they are able to return home.
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