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Originally Posted by techguyone
I think for some of us, the very idea that these people would be anything but angels is just simply not possible. I don't understand that philosophy either. Time will tell.
Burying head in the sand or fingers in ears singing LaLaLa very loudly won't change that fact, let's revisit this in say... 6 months time & see what the crime stats say.
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Quite. They've had their brains washed by the PC brigade who routinely conflate any criticism of immigration policy with latent racism, xenophobia and far right extremism. Of course if they had a credible argument for disproving the assertion that a proportion of these migrants are going to cause us serious problems and a great many more are going to prove a considerable burden in other ways, they'd use it. The haven't so they can't, relying instead on name calling to stifle the debate they know they can't win. Far easier to call people names, selectively quote statistics and avoid any reference to any of the numerous cases in which migrants and even asylum seekers have taken advantage of their new host societies, committed serious crimes, refused to integrate or whatever.
Frankly I'd have more respect for them if they desisted with the token denial and chose to argue instead that it was a price worth paying in order to fulfil our humanitarian obligations to the many. Personally, I don't have a major problem with helping the needy, I just don't think the way to do that is to slowly ruin our own society in the process. Allowing vast numbers of people to move where they want to go is a recipe for disaster in so many ways, not the least of which is the cost to their own nations as the better off and most highly motivated exit for pastures new, leaving the most vulnerable behind to their fate.
I heard that the Syrian refugees coming here are being given 5 year visas but does anyone really expect them all to go back to Syria when that time is up? They will have built lives here, had children, put kids through school, got jobs etc. etc. etc. Can you imagine the scenes 5 years down the line when people who've built new lives here are asked to leave and go back to lives of uncertainty? What about those who've had children here in the meantime? I reckon most of them are here to stay yet you'll never hear anyone official acknowledge that likelihood, preferring instead to peddle the myth that they'll all return home rebuild their homelands. If I were in their shoes I know where I'd want to be.
We need to understand what's happening here and the forces which are being unleashed. There's huge resentment building up and no matter what the great and the good (usually very well insulated from the direct effects of their policies) like to tell us, unless they put a stop to this there's going to be an increasing amount of trouble throughout Europe and on its borders.
As regards crime:
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The MPS (Metropolitan Police Service) crime recording system can not be searched to obtain details of someone’s status as a ‘foreign national’, only the nationality they give when the come to the attention of the Police. As a consequence there is no way to distinguish between residents of the UK (regardless of citizenship) and visitors from other countries.
Nationality is not a mandatory field in the MPS crime recording system and as such is not always completed or accused persons do not disclose this information. It is self defined and is a free text box. Nationality data is therefore only comprised of what was available to search.
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http://www.ministryoftruth.me.uk/200...tistics-abuse/