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Originally Posted by MagicMavis
Look at it from this angle:
Imagine I refused to sell you a car to tow a caravan and forced you to take a camper van instead. Imagine the camper part of it was absolutely terrible. You would complain, wouldn't you? How about I then told you it has a tow bar and you could always sack off the camper part and just tow a caravan with it? You would think that was completely ridiculous would you not?
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On a scale of 1-10 on how fitting an analogy is, you're about 1 and a half lol. You can't use something that means changing physical aspects, when in case of the router, it is not. I mean... how about maybe a washer dryer. You can use it for both, but heck if you don't want to you can use it for drying, you can use a separate drier.
Now that makes a tad more sense, but you see using this analogy, if I'm getting a washer drier (for the same price as a sole washing machine) and works exactly the same as a standard washing machine for this function, then what would my problem be if my sole intention was to use another drier?
I can moan that the drying side of it is not up to standard, sure, if I plan on using it for everything it can do, but as you're not then I'm struggling to understand any of your problem at all.
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It's exactly the same situation here. VM don't want to support my router, so they only provide a combined unit which is s**te. They acknowledge this and offer me the ability to use it as a modem only, then expect me to not call them on that? It's senseless. If they can't provide a suitable combined unit, just allow me to use a simple modem.
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Well, you see I just don't agree with you at all here. Sure, the SH 1 is about as much use as a snooze button on a fire alarm, but the 2 and 2ac perform just fine as a basic router. If you want to do more advanced things, then there's huge market of routers out there for a reason. No single ISP router I've seen has the range of features they do, otherwise there'd be no market for them.
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The difference is that I can find a suitable modem no problem at all. Small, subtle, efficient and reliable. Four things the SH is not.
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Ok, small and subtle is only judged in the eye of the beholder, but how do you efficiency? The SH in modem mode will perform as efficient as the network allows. If you have no network related issues which the Hub has no control over, then I don't know of a single person having any issues at all.
Throughout this thread you've not provided any cases of issues you've had in either router or modem mode. As we're ignoring any of the router sides of this, can you give us any examples of a time you've put your hub into modem mode, used another router and what issues you've come across? Have you even put set it as a modem and tested it, or are you just so naive as to think that as it's not to your standard as a router, as a modem it can't be any better?
Happy to continue to discuss this with you, but not unless you come up with something of substance, I can't even begin to see your point.