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Osem · 17-12-2015, 11:26

Why does it surprise anyone that, however much we may sympathise with them, bringing large numbers of people with all sorts of needs and issues (whether they be medical, psychological, educational and/or religious and cultural) might cause problems in areas which are already feeling hard done by as a result of cuts, austerity, unemployment or whatever?

Why does it surprise anyone that large numbers of people (mainly young men) who aren't allowed to work, don't speak the local language and have no support systems might resort to crime, especially when they've so often engaged in crime to get to their destinations in the first place?

Why does it surprise anyone that tensions arise between groups of migrants who don't want to get along with each other (and quite possibly have intractable historical cultural and religious reasons for not doing so) might clash and bring their simmering antagonism and hostility with them?

Why does it surprise anyone that people traumatised by conflict whether directly or indirectly might have considerable psychological problems which demand just the sort of mental health resources/long term treatment which are already in short supply and the lack of which is causing huge problems in our society?

Why does it surprise anyone that in tough circumstances such as these, migrants understandably tend to stick together with those they know and feel most comfortable (especially where there are strong religious and cultural factors) instead of integrating seamlessly into their new host societies?

Why does it surprise anyone that allowing free movement and giving refuge to people we usually have no detailed knowledge of might just result in an unknown number of wholly undesirable people gaining entry to and creating mayhem within their new host societies and quite possibly not even be removable?

Why does it surprise anyone that if you send out a 'welcome' whether directly in the form of a Merkel pronouncement or indirectly as a result of ineffectual border controls and immigration enforcement, desperate people from all around the globe might just want to take advantage and be inclined risk their lives to do so?

If none of the above are really any surprise to anyone with a brain, why are we still letting it happen in front of our eyes? Why aren't our generous and glorious leaders providing the additional services and infrastructure necessary to keep up with the extra demand they're imposing on our already overstretched services in so many areas? Why aren't our laws, rules and regulations being altered and strengthened to reflect the world we now live in, the abuse of the outdated HR system and the new and unpredictable risks we're facing as a result of what they're allowing to happen?

If, however, the above are still a big surprise to those who know best on our behalf you have to wonder what it's going to take to make them a) see sense and b) do something about it all?

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Osem Inactive Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Right here! Posts: 22,315	Re: Unstoppable migration? Why does it surprise anyone that, however much we may sympathise with them, bringing large numbers of people with all sorts of needs and issues (whether they be medical, psychological, educational and/or religious and cultural) might cause problems in areas which are already feeling hard done by as a result of cuts, austerity, unemployment or whatever? Why does it surprise anyone that large numbers of people (mainly young men) who aren't allowed to work, don't speak the local language and have no support systems might resort to crime, especially when they've so often engaged in crime to get to their destinations in the first place? Why does it surprise anyone that tensions arise between groups of migrants who don't want to get along with each other (and quite possibly have intractable historical cultural and religious reasons for not doing so) might clash and bring their simmering antagonism and hostility with them? Why does it surprise anyone that people traumatised by conflict whether directly or indirectly might have considerable psychological problems which demand just the sort of mental health resources/long term treatment which are already in short supply and the lack of which is causing huge problems in our society? Why does it surprise anyone that in tough circumstances such as these, migrants understandably tend to stick together with those they know and feel most comfortable (especially where there are strong religious and cultural factors) instead of integrating seamlessly into their new host societies? Why does it surprise anyone that allowing free movement and giving refuge to people we usually have no detailed knowledge of might just result in an unknown number of wholly undesirable people gaining entry to and creating mayhem within their new host societies and quite possibly not even be removable? Why does it surprise anyone that if you send out a 'welcome' whether directly in the form of a Merkel pronouncement or indirectly as a result of ineffectual border controls and immigration enforcement, desperate people from all around the globe might just want to take advantage and be inclined risk their lives to do so? If none of the above are really any surprise to anyone with a brain, why are we still letting it happen in front of our eyes? Why aren't our generous and glorious leaders providing the additional services and infrastructure necessary to keep up with the extra demand they're imposing on our already overstretched services in so many areas? Why aren't our laws, rules and regulations being altered and strengthened to reflect the world we now live in, the abuse of the outdated HR system and the new and unpredictable risks we're facing as a result of what they're allowing to happen? If, however, the above are still a big surprise to those who know best on our behalf you have to wonder what it's going to take to make them a) see sense and b) do something about it all?