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**Damien** · 05-12-2015, 11:46

New York Times may have made a editorial but it is a left-leaning paper and will be viewed with suspicion amongst those that need to be convinced. If Fox News came out for it then we might be seeing the beginning of a change but I would assume the NYT would have always been for stricter gun control.

I am wondering though when these actions stop becoming the actions of a madman and come into the definition of terrorism? As far as I currently know these people claim to have been 'inspired' by ISIS but aside from that there, yet, appears to be no evidence of contact with any other ISIS-inspired group or history of islamic radicalism. They may claim to be inspired by ISIS but they might as well have said they were inspired by the Catcher in the Rye for all it seems to have actually done?

Anyway maybe the alleged terror link will be a turning point because if these people were ever on a watch list or under suspicion then the fact they could legally buy guys might finally cede some concessions from Republicans. Even they will struggle to reconcile the notion of freedom with the right for terrorists to bear arms.

That said this is a country which in the aftermath of the murder of 20 children under the age of 10 still decided not to do anything.

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Damien Remoaner Cable Forum Mod Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 32,942	Re: Multiple shootings in California New York Times may have made a editorial but it is a left-leaning paper and will be viewed with suspicion amongst those that need to be convinced. If Fox News came out for it then we might be seeing the beginning of a change but I would assume the NYT would have always been for stricter gun control. I am wondering though when these actions stop becoming the actions of a madman and come into the definition of terrorism? As far as I currently know these people claim to have been 'inspired' by ISIS but aside from that there, yet, appears to be no evidence of contact with any other ISIS-inspired group or history of islamic radicalism. They may claim to be inspired by ISIS but they might as well have said they were inspired by the Catcher in the Rye for all it seems to have actually done? Anyway maybe the alleged terror link will be a turning point because if these people were ever on a watch list or under suspicion then the fact they could legally buy guys might finally cede some concessions from Republicans. Even they will struggle to reconcile the notion of freedom with the right for terrorists to bear arms. That said this is a country which in the aftermath of the murder of 20 children under the age of 10 still decided not to do anything.