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Osem · 30-11-2015, 11:17

Could the Tories really have wished for a more ineffectual opposition? After seeing off the inept Miliband, they must have thought 'things can only get harder'... Labour were clearly deemed economically inept before the last election, now they're seen to be politically inept as well. I hope there is a split. Labour would do well to get shot of their loony contingent and their policies once and for all. There's plenty of room for sensible middle ground opposition.

You'd have thought they might just have learned a lesson from their utter demise in Scotland but Corbyn seems to have decided to plough on regardless of what the man in the street thinks.

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Having lived through the IRA bombing period like many people here I can confirm that I won't be altering my behaviour due to some unknown terrorist threat or another. I reckon I'm far more likely to get run over whilst my mind is preoccupied with thoughts of gunmen or suicide bombers than be a victim of crazed terrorists. What I will do is be careful just like I am when I use an ATM. I don't shield my PIN because I think everyone else is a threat, I do so because some people are. I lock my front door for the same reason. It's sensible. We don't need to stop doing/using this, that or the other, we just need to be aware, not paranoid. I'd argue that tightening our border controls and screening processes is entirely sensible not because 'all bloody foreigners are lunatics' but because some are. Given that quite a few Brits have shown themselves to have terrorist sympathies I'd happily accept that other countries might want to screen me a bit more carefully than they might previously have done too. I'd expect them to do so and not whine about being picked upon. If I were a genuine refugee who turned up on a border somewhere I'd also expect my prospective hosts to want to screen me for all sorts of reasons. Why wouldn't they do that?

Nothing we can do is going to be a panacea for all our potential terrorist ills but it's still sensible to take more precautions that we currently are. I reckon if we all worried less about being 'offended' and applied proportionate common sense precautions to such matters things would be a whole lot better for everyone.

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Osem Inactive Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Right here! Posts: 22,315	Re: Shadow Cabinet Anger Over Shock Corbyn Letter Could the Tories really have wished for a more ineffectual opposition? After seeing off the inept Miliband, they must have thought 'things can only get harder'... Labour were clearly deemed economically inept before the last election, now they're seen to be politically inept as well. I hope there is a split. Labour would do well to get shot of their loony contingent and their policies once and for all. There's plenty of room for sensible middle ground opposition. You'd have thought they might just have learned a lesson from their utter demise in Scotland but Corbyn seems to have decided to plough on regardless of what the man in the street thinks. ---------- Post added at 10:17 ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 ---------- Having lived through the IRA bombing period like many people here I can confirm that I won't be altering my behaviour due to some unknown terrorist threat or another. I reckon I'm far more likely to get run over whilst my mind is preoccupied with thoughts of gunmen or suicide bombers than be a victim of crazed terrorists. What I will do is be careful just like I am when I use an ATM. I don't shield my PIN because I think everyone else is a threat, I do so because some people are. I lock my front door for the same reason. It's sensible. We don't need to stop doing/using this, that or the other, we just need to be aware, not paranoid. I'd argue that tightening our border controls and screening processes is entirely sensible not because 'all bloody foreigners are lunatics' but because some are. Given that quite a few Brits have shown themselves to have terrorist sympathies I'd happily accept that other countries might want to screen me a bit more carefully than they might previously have done too. I'd expect them to do so and not whine about being picked upon. If I were a genuine refugee who turned up on a border somewhere I'd also expect my prospective hosts to want to screen me for all sorts of reasons. Why wouldn't they do that? Nothing we can do is going to be a panacea for all our potential terrorist ills but it's still sensible to take more precautions that we currently are. I reckon if we all worried less about being 'offended' and applied proportionate common sense precautions to such matters things would be a whole lot better for everyone.