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Originally Posted by Osem

Why? As I pointed out we don't and have never enjoyed total freedom. We've lived in a society in which our freedoms have been limited and often subject to change as in times of war and other crises. Our daily lives are already affected in all sorts of ways to reduce criminal behaviour, ensure safety, prevent antisocial behaviour etc. etc. etc. By that logic thieves have won because we have to lock our front doors and need a police service to protect us.

This is no different form what's always happened. Right now we face a serious threat and that demands our freedoms come under review. That's really nothing new and if we can break the back of the threat we face, there's no reason why some of the freedoms we might lose can't be restored as they have been in the past.

The terrorists win when we're all too frightened of being blown up to go out and we give in to their demands. Being subject to additional surveillance or security checks, for example, is a price but one which is worth paying in the circumstances IMHO.

Couple of thousand years ago, chap called Julius, remember him???