Originally Posted by Osem

True - we just have to do a far better job of working out who we're letting into Europe and keeping out/detecting as many maniacs as we can. including those already amongst us. We're all subject to daily CCTV surveillance because a relatively few people decide upon law breaking. We all suffer but accept security measures at airports which are only required because a relatively few people would do us harm. Now we have to apply similarly robust measures to all our borders and migration policy. because amongst the many there are those who're committed to kill us. It'd be great if we didn't need to but we clearly do and that is going to affect all of us in one way or another.

Frankly I'd rather feel a bit safer going to a football match, music venue or restaurant than be able to roam around Europe without the need to even show a passport. How many opportunities to stop the Serbian guy who was found with weapons in his vehicle the other day (and many people like him) have been missed because of the nonsense which is Schengen?

We need to accept we don't have freedom, we have some freedom and in order to protect the freedoms which matter most to us, we're going to need to sacrifice others.