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Old 15-11-2015, 13:28   #76
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re: Paris shootings in November 2015

I think we might be coming towards a closure of the open borders. It started even before this after all. We will still have the problems of migrants trying to come across the closed borders though. They are taking boats to Greece or coming in via Turkey and short of building a manned wall across European borders they will find a way in.

Also ISIS would like nothing better than to see the West cause an even greater humanitarian crisis at it's borders so we need to think carefully how we would actually stop being coming in. Excessive force or letting people drown would not only be unconscionable to most people but it would also help foster resentment and bolster ISIS.

This is the same problem that I wrote about in the other thread. No one really knows the answer to this. It's logistically, politically and morally difficult to come up with an answer and most of the ones suggested would fall down if put into practise.

I saw yesterday, and now I cannot find a link, that a plan for a post-Assad Syrian administration was agreed by parties including the US and Russia. I still think that making Syria stable again and confronting (wiping out) ISIS is the best course of action.

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PS I like this article although it does slightly contradict what I said before: http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/201...rested-in-you/

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There will be many sage, chin-stroking, warnings against an ‘over-reaction’ to this atrocity. Of course. And yet it is not possible to avoid reacting to this act of war. Obliterating Islamic State, wherever it is to be found, is not liable to be a sufficient response but it is a necessary part of any response. Because if we did not know before now – and if we did not, it was because we were wilfully denying a grimly observable reality – we know now. There is no compromise that can be struck with the mindset behind these murders.
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