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					Originally Posted by  Pierre
					 
				 
				What that 2nd chamber of unelected ex-fat cat politicians and toffs that people moan about all the time, and want rid off ................ 
 
This is why the 2nd chambers works, as is. 
			
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 Sorry but I disagree. What is this bunch of unelected ex-fat cat politicians and toffs doing meddling in the affairs of the elected Government?
It's time this bunch took their last handout and get the fudge out of Rog.
We haven't needed this ermined gentry for decades; if they are going to start messing with financial planning then we need shot of them.