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Old 23-09-2015, 12:33   #90
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Re: Oversubscribed areas?

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Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 View Post
Just to say i'm on part of the old Telewest network and before the takeover in 2006 the service was just appalling in this area and now it's so much better
Uddingston along with a bunch of other, mostly ex-Eurobell areas, was largely rebuilt by ntl:Telewest. Telewest refrained from doing it basically because they were waiting for ntl: to come get them

ntl:Telewest ended up doing a ton of rebuild and node splits in ex-Telewest areas, those areas having had everything possible done to sweat the existing fibre and copper.

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Originally Posted by Kushan View Post
The guidelines are the same, but is the amount being invested in relation to the demand on the network?
Yep.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis View Post
and how small the capacity is compared to what people on the top package can do.
I think we've spoken on this before. Not really. The issue is how many people are on the same capacity, not the proportion someone on the top tier can take.

If you think Virgin are bad selling 152Mb out of 400, 600 or 800Mb you'd have an anaphylactic reaction to operators selling 300Mb out of 608Mb in North America and 500Mb out of 800Mb in Sweden.

If you think Virgin are callous in this regard I can tell you that they were asked whether they thought they would be able to release 300Mb on 8 downstreams, 400Mb capacity.

They refused. They won. It's not happening.

The heaviest VM have gone in terms of the ratio of capacity to access line speed was when they were selling 100Mb on 152Mb capacity in a very few areas where an upgrade was delayed. Apart from that they've never breached about a 1:2 ratio which is quite normal for cable.

It's also not that far off normal on FTTP, where 1Gb downstream services are sold on 2.4Gb GPON splits and 500Mb upstream services on 1.2Gb.

There is way more to this than simply maximum speed.

Lastly it can't be made clear enough - VM couldn't give a toss about download speeds. They are worried about QoE / Quality of Experience metrics. These alongside feedback from the Samknows kit they have deployed is what they work on. They unapologetically make no attempt to ensure there's no visible contention.
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