[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Osem

IMHO this is the real world and it's clearly not occupied by the Eurocrats and holier than thou personalities who're currently sitting piously on the bandwagon. They'll be the ones who'll be quietly jumping off it in large numbers when reality dawns, leaving our existing poor, vulnerable and needy to carry the can and continue the good work. That's what they always do.

Well said