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Osem · 06-09-2015, 11:16

In the rush to welcome refugees and try to establish quota/numbers, I reckon a great many people are forgetting that a whole lot of those now being granted refugee status will, quite understandably be wanting to bring their families (mainly women, children & elderly) over in order to secure their safety. If these people are, as often claimed, stuck in war torn Syria and had to be left behind, how is anyone going to get them out? Alternatively, if they've been left behind in Turkey, for example, what mechanism will be used to extract these family members from all the others massing there? If they have no papers how are they going to be identified and is it really fair that simply because a relative made it to the EU illegally, they also get taken in whereas an equally desperate family who stayed together could be left behind.

Instead of making ourselves feel better in what I feel will turn out to be a short lived outpouring of sympathy and generosity in certain parts of Europe, someone needs to be considering the longer term ramifications of what's going on because if a whole lot of refugees are told their families are not going to be able to join them for whatever reason they're not going to be very happy about it. What are they planning to do if the decisions made in due course about where these people are going to go are not agreed to by the refugees? Is it going to be Hungary all over again with people forced to go where they don't want to, taken from their chosen Germany to some other place? Who's going to force refugees to go to a country they have no connection with, no desire to go to and where they're quite possible not going to be welcome? Whose going to force them to stay there?

Answers on a postcard to Jean-Claude Juncker please...

What our glorious leaders ought to have been doing over the years this crisis has been unfolding is thinking about the practical means by which they'd handle such entirely predictable and inevitable problems. It seems they've done very little thinking and even less planning, hence the awful chaos.

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Osem Inactive Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Right here! Posts: 22,315	Re: Unstoppable migration? In the rush to welcome refugees and try to establish quota/numbers, I reckon a great many people are forgetting that a whole lot of those now being granted refugee status will, quite understandably be wanting to bring their families (mainly women, children & elderly) over in order to secure their safety. If these people are, as often claimed, stuck in war torn Syria and had to be left behind, how is anyone going to get them out? Alternatively, if they've been left behind in Turkey, for example, what mechanism will be used to extract these family members from all the others massing there? If they have no papers how are they going to be identified and is it really fair that simply because a relative made it to the EU illegally, they also get taken in whereas an equally desperate family who stayed together could be left behind. Instead of making ourselves feel better in what I feel will turn out to be a short lived outpouring of sympathy and generosity in certain parts of Europe, someone needs to be considering the longer term ramifications of what's going on because if a whole lot of refugees are told their families are not going to be able to join them for whatever reason they're not going to be very happy about it. What are they planning to do if the decisions made in due course about where these people are going to go are not agreed to by the refugees? Is it going to be Hungary all over again with people forced to go where they don't want to, taken from their chosen Germany to some other place? Who's going to force refugees to go to a country they have no connection with, no desire to go to and where they're quite possible not going to be welcome? Whose going to force them to stay there? Answers on a postcard to Jean-Claude Juncker please... What our glorious leaders ought to have been doing over the years this crisis has been unfolding is thinking about the practical means by which they'd handle such entirely predictable and inevitable problems. It seems they've done very little thinking and even less planning, hence the awful chaos.