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Originally Posted by papa smurf
and there we have it a prime example of what is wrong on our roads ,these people[lycra louts] can't be reasoned with and will not be helped .it's always the other guys fault ,they still reserve the right to commit suicide by reckless riding .
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Originally Posted by Osem
Let's be honest, only some of them are idiots - the ones who want to be responsible will be and will benefit from initiatives like this. The younger they're exposed to it the better. Those who insist on being irresponsible will sooner or later find that they're called to account. Right now they're able to blame everyone else but their day of reckoning will come either through tougher law enforcement, civil actions and even perhaps under the wheels of a truck, bus or car. I'd rather they were sensible and did what they reasonably can to stay out of trouble but if they prefer to be stupid and take their chances so be it. They're no different in mindset from idiot car drivers, just a whole lot more vulnerable and that fact only adds to their stupidity.
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Now, now no need to get uppity because you can't impose your couch potato views on other people.
You prolific keyboard warriors will say anything to "show your concern for the well being of others before their day of reckoning comes" (embarrassingly biblical

). If you really care, lobby for proper protection and facilities for cyclists instead of "come-into-my-cab-and-you-can-see-I-can't-see-you-therefore-when-you die-because-I'm-unsighted-it's-your-fault" schemes.
Neither of you offered an opinion on CCTV for lorries so that they are fully road aware as they should be.