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Old 24-08-2015, 09:37   #112
Chrysalis
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Re: Harman's Labour 'rebellion'

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
I disagree with your view that Labour have to follow Conservative policies to get elected. What they need to have is an appropriate balance between the need to encourage wealth creation and the need to look after those who are unable to cope in modern Britain.

Labour just cannot seem to get the balance right. Until they come up with a workable economic strategy and a better understanding of how important it is to direct appropriate levels of resources into appropriate means of helping our own less fortunate, they will be a long time in the wilderness.

The Corbyn route will just leave us even more unable to help those who need it because there will be no money to support them.

In both the 1979 and 2010 elections, a helpful Labour chappie told the incoming Administration that there was no money left. What does that tell you about Labour's vision?
you seem to have been brought into the myth that labour were spending out of control.

prior to the bank bailout they had a lower deficit than the previous tory government had. All the money went to the banks.

The bank situation was a global problem, but the UK was especially affected due to our softy approach to banks and dependency on the financial sector.

This bank bailout the tories supported, which funny enough I pointed out in the post you replied to.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
There is an element of truth in your post but it is a bit like comparing the sublime with the ridiculous!

Most of us are fed up with politically correct language and the hectoring party politics, but to suggest that economically illiterate policies and Michael Foot policies are the answer is like living in some fairy tale world that only exists in immature imaginations.

If any politician really wants to tackle poverty in this country, the first thing they need to understand is the need to create wealth and then direct it wisely.

Unfortunately, Left wing politicians seem to be hell bent on following the politics of envy, and all that will lead to is bail outs from the IMF and heartbreaking scenes on TV such as we have seen happening in Greece.
By wealth creation do you mean looking after the desires of the rich and then having a false belief the wealth trickles down?

In a society with no tax and welfare e.g. where nature is left to do its course we will have what we had in medieval times, lords in a castle and slaves tendering to their fields etc. In that sort of society of course the weak are left to die as there is nothing to take care of them.

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Yes, that 1 UKIP Parliamentary seat, along with the 1 Green seat, has them quaking in their shoes.....
of course the anti democratic voting system has kept the status quo intact.

In a PR system the greens and UKIP would have dozens of seats between them.
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