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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
Just rejoice as Labour tears itself to pieces.  |
As long as a decent opposition emerges from the ashes absolutely.
I am pleased and somewhat surprised to say that I have not been purged. I guess my extensive work with our Labour councillors and MP ensured I passed the test.
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
I am probably more left wing than right wing myself, but even with my limited intelligence I know a left wing leader is bad for the labour party. Out of all their candidates my MP liz kendall is probably the only one who can win an election, fresh face, blairite, female and with some right wing policies. Yet she is in 4th place.
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I would actually disagree. The Conservatives moved closer to Blair and have claimed that space in the centre-right. Why would anyone vote pretendy-Conservative when they can have something closer to the real thing?
Also, surely it's more important for parties to try and sell their vision to the electorate, rather than changing that vision in an attempt to get elected? What's the point in having a plurality of parties if the rest are all being blown about by public opinion and have no principles beyond to say whatever they think the electorate want to hear?
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
With an english population that is typically anti left wing and a right wing press, Labour are in for some bad years.
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I'm far from convinced the entire English population is anti-left wing. Just no-one has really tried to make that argument coherently, and people are too lazy to bother trying to find out. They'd far rather be spoon-fed by a press which, obviously, is going to have a right-wing bias, it's run by people with a right-wing bias.
A number of UKIP's policies were somewhat to the left and seemed to go down well.
The argument on the left is, sadly, dominated by a regressive group who want to impose their views on everyone else. They have contempt for progressive politics, democracy, and the rights of the individual. If a group were to come to prominence offering liberal social policies, essentially not behaving like the offence police and demanding we all adore the EU, alongside left-wing economics and a genuine respect for democracy close to the point of delivery who knows what'd happen?