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Old 13-08-2015, 10:51   #115
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Re: Yet again - Cyclist Killed in London

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Originally Posted by Kursk View Post
I think you're overstating the chaos thing. Buses don't keep to schedule because there's too much motorised traffic not because they are hampered by cyclists.



I must be misinterpreting your comments which seem one-sided: "cyclists are idiots and that is why they die" is a point of view that misses the more complex state of affairs that is leading to an increasing number of cyclist deaths. I think something needs to be done other than saying "another idiot has died".

Did you see the open heart surgery undertaken by a doctor on a cyclist at the roadside on "an hour to save your life"? She was a young German girl who'd had her pelvis crushed by a lorry and she had internal bleeding that took her life. She was no idiot; she was a young and vibrant woman who died in a London gutter.

It can't go on.
Yes you must be because you're missing out where I have qualified my views and pointed at that not all cyclists are idiots any more than all drivers are.

From my post:

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the idiocy some of them still insist on displaying, especially when they're fully aware that there are plenty of idiotic drivers out there who could kill them at any moment
Yes I did see that show, very moving it was too and I refer you to my previous comments one more time. I have no idea whether what she did on that day was idiotic and neither do you. Of course one, idiotic decision, doesn't make someone a complete idiot does it - you and I both know that. What you seem to be trying to do, however, is imply that I believe all cyclists are to blame when in fact I have never said, written or implied that so please desist.

Yes something does need to be done about this and at the top of the list is that cyclists need to take more responsibility for their own actions. That won't take years and £millions. It's not even radical. It could be done overnight if those involved wanted to do it. The results would be immediate and many of the fatalities and serious injuries which result from cyclists being invisible and vulnerable due to lack of lighting, proper clothing and headgear would be avoided. Now that really isn't stating that all cyclists are idiots and that nobody else is at fault. Neither is it implying that nothing else could/should be done to make our roads safer for all road users and pedestrians. It's merely pointing out that self preservation ought to be higher on the list of priorities for many cyclists than it is and that would be good for everyone.
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