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Originally Posted by Kursk

I think you're overstating the chaos thing. Buses don't keep to schedule because there's too much motorised traffic not because they are hampered by cyclists.



I must be misinterpreting your comments which seem one-sided: "cyclists are idiots and that is why they die" is a point of view that misses the more complex state of affairs that is leading to an increasing number of cyclist deaths. I think something needs to be done other than saying "another idiot has died".

Did you see the open heart surgery undertaken by a doctor on a cyclist at the roadside on "an hour to save your life"? She was a young German girl who'd had her pelvis crushed by a lorry and she had internal bleeding that took her life. She was no idiot; she was a young and vibrant woman who died in a London gutter.

It can't go on.

reading these cycling threads it seems to me quite clear that cycling past a lorry/bus/car on the left is a stupid move with a high chance of death or serious injury yet the message seems not to penetrate the cyclists attitude to road safety ,your right it cant go on why should motorists be subjected to this stupidity every day .