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Originally Posted by Taf
Large chunks of main roads here have been turned into bus lanes.
And now they have allowed cyclists to ride in the bus lanes. Result: traffic chaos as buses pull out of bus lanes occupied by cyclists; buses not keeping to schedule; cyclists happy with their extra wide "cycle lanes".
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I think you're overstating the chaos thing. Buses don't keep to schedule because there's too much motorised traffic not because they are hampered by cyclists.
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Originally Posted by Osem
I don't know whether you think I have a problem with cyclists but I can assure you I don't and it doesn't wind me up when another one gets crushed any more than when anyone else dies on our roads. This thread is about cyclists which is why I'm commenting on them and the idiocy some of them still insist on displaying, especially when they're fully aware that there are plenty of idiotic drivers out there who could kill them at any moment. I just find that very curious. How soon the required cycle routes in all our major towns and cities appear in sufficient numbers to affect the death toll will remain to be seen but since I never drive in C. London it won't affect me one jot.
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I must be misinterpreting your comments which seem one-sided: "cyclists are idiots and that is why they die" is a point of view that misses the more complex state of affairs that is leading to an increasing number of cyclist deaths. I think something needs to be done other than saying "another idiot has died".
Did you see the open heart surgery undertaken by a doctor on a cyclist at the roadside on "an hour to save your life"? She was a young German girl who'd had her pelvis crushed by a lorry and she had internal bleeding that took her life. She was no idiot; she was a young and vibrant woman who died in a London gutter.
It can't go on.