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**Damien** · 29-07-2015, 17:53

I can't see how he could possibly win. Some of this ideas may end up being popular but he'll lack fiscal credibility, be perceived as too extreme and generally not PM material IMO. Much like Miliband.

The only way I can see it happening is if we're underestimating the appeal of a different message to that which has been provided over the last 15-20 years. Maybe it is the case that since Blair we all assume that people want centrist Governments that make small incremental changes and are judged on competency rather than policy. I mean the last election really was about that wasn't it? There wasn't too much difference between the parties and now even Osbourne is aping some of the Labour policies, such as the living wage, which was deemed as rampant socialism by Labour's critics prior to the election. For their part Labour mirrored Osbourne's stance on eliminating the deficit and running a balanced budget where possible!

The only people who got passionate about this minor differences were hyper-patisans who tried to claim it amounted to the world of difference. The Tories would chuck the dying onto the streets whereas Labour would rob them then their dead according to them. Normal people didn't care.

Maybe Corbyn will succeed by offering a genuine difference and benefit from the 'Farage' effect where people believe what he is saying. I doubt it will work though.

His supporters are falling for the same trap they did during the Election. All their friends, Twitter and Facebook love him ergo the whole nation loves him. After all who isn't on Twitter and Facebook talking about politics 24/7?

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Damien Remoaner Cable Forum Mod Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 32,942	Re: Harman's Labour 'rebellion' I can't see how he could possibly win. Some of this ideas may end up being popular but he'll lack fiscal credibility, be perceived as too extreme and generally not PM material IMO. Much like Miliband. The only way I can see it happening is if we're underestimating the appeal of a different message to that which has been provided over the last 15-20 years. Maybe it is the case that since Blair we all assume that people want centrist Governments that make small incremental changes and are judged on competency rather than policy. I mean the last election really was about that wasn't it? There wasn't too much difference between the parties and now even Osbourne is aping some of the Labour policies, such as the living wage, which was deemed as rampant socialism by Labour's critics prior to the election. For their part Labour mirrored Osbourne's stance on eliminating the deficit and running a balanced budget where possible! The only people who got passionate about this minor differences were hyper-patisans who tried to claim it amounted to the world of difference. The Tories would chuck the dying onto the streets whereas Labour would rob them then their dead according to them. Normal people didn't care. Maybe Corbyn will succeed by offering a genuine difference and benefit from the 'Farage' effect where people believe what he is saying. I doubt it will work though. His supporters are falling for the same trap they did during the Election. All their friends, Twitter and Facebook love him ergo the whole nation loves him. After all who isn't on Twitter and Facebook talking about politics 24/7?