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Re: Harman's Labour 'rebellion'

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Originally Posted by Osem View Post
That's what happened in 1997 when we were all hacked off with sleazy Tories and accordingly voted for 'whiter than white' Bliar who promised to be better. Maybe we have to get used to the idea that elections are lost rather than won. As much as I detest Labour, I also hate the idea that another party might be able to stay in power simply because there's no credible opposition.
It's not just Blair promising to be better though it was the fact he made Labour electable by ditching the fringe wackiness that characterised his party until that point. Too many in Labour seem to value ideological purity over pragmatism and hence seem content to lose elections on their terms than win elections by compromising with the electorate.

It's telling that Kendell, by saying they need to address some of the reasons they lost, is dismissed as a 'Tory'. It's equally telling that 'Tory' is the worst epithet they can imagine. They don't seem to understand a large amount of the electorate don't really feel too strongly about either party so shouting 'TORY!!!!' won't convince them.

It's nuts.
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