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Originally Posted by johnhook
JSA has dropped to under 3 billion iirc. No one is interested in the harsh reality of the State pension just wait 5 years the poor and sick will be on pennies and dying and the state pension will have risen again by more than the cuts have saved. The State pensions figures now are 88 billion a rise of over the 12 billion wanted in cuts over 2 years. If this follows in 15 years the state pension will be more than the whole welfare budget is now
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yep I couldnt find more recent figures so just posted those, but as you said the gap has widened.
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Originally Posted by Kursk
Not for the first time on this forum I am wrongly accused. In this instance, you call me self serving. How am I self served by supporting pensioners whose income is earned (I am not a pensioner)?; how am I self served by suggesting that benefits need to be targeted toward those in need? (I receive no benefits).
No, it is simply this: there are people who feel their 'predicament' is just not fair and that their situation can be alleviated at the expense of others. In this case, the target is older people. The truly self serving people are those who would bleed their grandmother and grandfather of the modest income that allows them to enjoy their old age with dignity.
It's just as well there are systems in place to protect the defenceless from a youth that expects their needs to be satiated immediately.
Like Ramrod says there is plenty of time for you to provide for yourself if you are concerned about the cost of future pensions and anyway, you never know who might try to take it away from you just when you are relying upon it.
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we need to get away from all this earned nonsense.
you talk as if no young people earn their income and pay taxes.
you talk as if every single pensioner has worked for the full duration of their working age.
you talk as if what you earned is the most important thing (when it isnt).
Again your post proves you only thinking about yourself, you just said it, you have the belief because you worked hard, then that is more important than everything else.