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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				Irrelevant of where it came from? 
 
There was me thinking part of it came from me working solidly for 49 years, happily contributing through tax (at least 40% for the last 20 and the next 8 years) and NI.... 
  
Don't forget, I will be taxed on my pensions, including the state pension, so the country will be getting it back - or should I just not bother paying into my pension, and spend all the money now.... 
  
ymmv.... 
			
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 yes and fair play I respect you for it. I am sure you have had a high standard of living and enjoyed a good life for your hard work to? and you have self respect. As I said it is a very emotive subject but still alters nothing really the state pension is rapidly increasing and is unsustainable
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					Originally Posted by  Pierre
					 
				 
				There it is people. 
 
It's where we've been heading for some time now. 
 
The "you provide for me" culture 
 
The you've worked hard all your life, been a net contributor to the system, well we want it all, and you can't have anything back - you richer than me greedy *******. You keep paying for me. 
			
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 utter crap 
All I am saying is the state pension keeps rising and no one is prepared to accept it is a problem. Instead you have a pop and totally ignore the facts
Having to repeat myself because people ignore what I am saying and make assumptions that I want their tax