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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
That's not as easy as the kippers would have us believe and this utopia where we get the best of both worlds like "Norway" is hogwash to, this is the sort of thing we need to have a sensible, adult conversation about in the run up to referendum but sadly it's beyond most politicians.
Another thing is did Dave say we were having a referendum or did he say we'd have one if he couldn't get reforms, I can't remember if he has said both just remember the latter.
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Both. However he will get some reforms. It's not in the EU's interest not to concede at all or at least not to pretend that they've conceded some ground. I think Cameron will win some meaningful concessions over benefits and then they'll dress up existing policies as new. For example a state doesn't have to open themselves to free movement from a newly joined state right away and I can see Cameron coming back with an 'assurance' of a 'waiting period' when the next member joins. I think he will also get another meaningless assurance that we won't have to sign up to the Euro.