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Old 04-04-2015, 10:54   #318
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Re: 2015 UK General Election Thread

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Quite amusing...
It is but it's clear why Miliband didn't go after Farage that much. Clegg and Cameron also tried to avoid confrontation with him. The minority parties did so instead.

Farage was baiting them into criticising him so that he can play the politically correct persecution card. He does this all the time. He says something that skirts with racism, xenophobia or simply outright ignorance but is usually wise enough to stay just on the right side of the line. Everyone knows the implication and undertones of what he is saying but, on the face of it, it's reasonable.

Remember when he said the children of migrants should be counted as migrants too? Not entirely unreasonable if you're talking about the impact of migration, it's certainly not obviously racist, but it's never how these things are measured and the full implication of it is that someone born here is considered as a migrant.

This is the same. The figure he quoted was misleading and the 'not born here' includes plenty of people who have been here their whole lives, schooled here, worked here and are British citizens.

Of course he doesn't care. That isn't the point. The point was the reaction he wanted from Cameron/Miliband. They attack him for the remark and he whines that it's true and UKIPers cry Political correctness.

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Nothing can dent the fundamentalist zeal of their supporters. . Bear that in mind, and remember that they will make a lot more noise than you would expect. Come polling day, there is no doubt the SNP will do better than it ever has before; it would be hard not to, with the Yessers still so sore over their recent defeat. But there are a lot of people in Scotland who don't support them, and who never will. It will only be big news if they make any significant breakthrough beyond the 44.7% Yes vote from last September. And I don't think that's likely.
I think it's the fact people who aren't traditionally nationalist are being taken in by this 'progressive alliance' spin. People I know in England are being taken in by this too. They're nationalists, their entire goal is a Independent Scotland. Yet people are falling for this new image that they want to build alliances across the UK for the better good. It's infuriating. I can see it, you can see it, people who aren't fans of the SNP can see but so many others cannot.

As Ashdown has said they're coming to burn the place down but no one is paying attention or doing anything about it.
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