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Originally Posted by ianch99
So you say saying that as it is an occupied territory, the people there should be treated poorly? What are you actually saying here?
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What I'm saying here is that neither side has covered itself in glory over the past 67 years, and the synthetic moral outrage that characterises both sides of the debate over Israel and Palestine is both pointless and hypocritical.
For example, "the people there should be treated poorly". What sort of statement is that? To give people who consider themselves occupied a vote on the composition of the occupying state's government? That's fantasy politics by people who prefer to use moral certainty as a comfort blanket rather than dealing with the world as it really is.
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Where's the voting rights for Palestinians abroad that hold claim to property and land in Israel? Also east Jerusalem isn't considered occupied by Israel nor do they consider the west bank to be anything more than a territorial dispute rather than an occupation
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Ah yes, the "right of return".
You do know, don't you, that this most ludicrous of all Palestinian demands has been the one thing that has allowed Israel to avoid reaching terms with them all these years?
If all the Palestinians who had that "right" were able to exercise it, they would immediately become the ethnic majority in Israel, and able to vote the state out of existence at the first opportunity. For that reason, Israel will never, under any circumstances, agree to it.
Incidentally a great many "Palestinians" who claim that right were not born in Israel and have never been there. Go figure.