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Originally Posted by Chris
Idi, life is not a psychology textbook. I think your six principles are rather besides the point - as is your perjorative use of the word "indoctrination". (It does also have a non-perjorative sense but I get the impression you don't mean it that way - this may be why Russ is refusing to engage with you over it).
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no. I believe Russ is being intentionally difficult, facetious and pedantic. which is a shame, because earlier on, he responded very well, for which I commended him in private. but in this case, he doesn't want to answer, i think, because he knows how it will look to the observer.
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Originally Posted by Chris
Children get more choices as they get older. In some areas they get choice when they themselves ask for it. To ask whether a chid being brought up in a faith is in that situation without "choice" is as meaningless as asking whether that same child is getting fish and chips for tea without "choice".
I can only repeat what I have already repeated multiple times in this thread: parents make choices for their kids. Clothes, food, holiday destinations, football teams and, yes, religion. This is what normal family life looks like. There is nothing sinister, manipulative or power-crazed about it.
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absolutely right. however, not getting a choice in fish for tea is not likely to determine a potentially life long, permanent change in the way in which one lives or thinks. about the future choices they make. about what they believe to be acceptable questions to ask. not having a choice in what t-shirt to wear is in no way comparable to a forced ideology.
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Wasn't my example..but the point still remains that children have their own reasoning and intelligence at some point in their lives to either accept their parents ideology or reject it.I do have 40+ years experience of teenagers to back that up..
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yes they do. and I respect that your profession has given you that experience with teenagers. but I fear you are rather missing the point. to choose 'in' on something when mature enough, when one has a good understanding and balanced view of all options available is far easier than choosing 'out' of something that has become a major focus and factor of ones life because they were indoctrinated into a group at a time when they had no choice in the matter. I have no idea if members here indoctrinate - they dance around the questions. but if they do, then I think that is wrong. I won't tell them not to, it's not my place. but I do think it wrong.