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Originally Posted by idi banashapan
as someone outside of the church and religion, I do feel that it defines certain rules or codes of conduct by which it expects it's followers to live by.
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So an expectation to live by, not 'telling them how to live' then right?
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Originally Posted by idi banashapan
granted, I am someone out of touch with religious teachings, I acknowledge that, but doesn't religion focus a bit on the 10 commandments for example? and the bible is full or moral guidance for those who read it, isn't it? do you not think that these are telling people how to live?
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No, it's as you say - an expectation.
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Originally Posted by idi banashapan
in Catholicism, there is original sin which children must be cleansed of, only by devoting themselves to the faith - which kinda forces the hand of the parents who love/fear (they seem to be the same thing as far as I can work out in religion) god. do you not consider that manipulative?
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No more than the atheists or some humanists who want all traces of religion removed from their children's lives.
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
could you describe the rabid atheists and give some dates i'll check
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Easy. I used to work with a guy at Asda who was crazily atheist. Before he knew about my beliefs we'd have the odd chat about any kind of rubbish when he'd bring reports to my desk. When he later found out about my beliefs his attitude changed totally, he'd just dump them on my desk and leave.
One time in the canteen he loudly told everyone how he considered anyone with religious beliefs to be "weak-minded fools". When I told him one of the GPs at my doctor's surgery was a Christian he asked which practise it was and the name of the doctor as he wanted to make a complaint that he didn't think someone "who believes in fairy tales could be trusted with people's lives".
Another time he'd go utterly nuts if anyone said "bless you" when he sneezed. So during the summer when he suffered with hay fever we'd all be saying "bless you". When I did it he reported me to HR for "imposing religion" on him
That is rabid atheism.