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Originally Posted by Chris
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Pretty weak one to be honest. It seems odd Mr Stanley felt the need to fuel the fire and give it further oxygen. Perhaps lying to himself when claiming he finds it all so passe.
His comments are bizarre, and I think perhaps silence would've been a better option than writing this stuff. Just a couple of quotes:
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Not only has theology dedicated itself for thousands of years to unpicking that problem but the answer to it is there in the very Bible itself. Since Adam and Eve ate the apple, we’ve been living in a fallen world full of pain.
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What level of spite is need to allow harm on the current population of the world for things that allegedly happened over 6,000 years ago? The all-loving God is capricious enough to hold grudges for millennia? Wasn't killing almost every human being and every living thing on the planet bar 2 of each kind enough?
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Terrible things happen because of a) random acts of nature, b) the intervention of the Devil or c) the corruption of man.
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So they're a) one of those things and God declines to get involved, b) the allegedly omnipotent and omniscient God turning a blind eye to the actions of the Devil, or c) I guess we're back to the multi-millennia long grudge. This really doesn't help the case, Tim.
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It’s also morally corrupt, because the Greek gods rather liked raping and murdering – and were often immune to human pleas for compassion.
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Read the Old Testament recently, Tim? Your God seemed perfectly content to kill every living thing on the planet bar a fraction of them. Even the Greek gods didn't go that far. Fry indicated they were more believable because they were flawed, which explained issues.
It also entirely misses the point of what he had to say. I, too, find a pantheon of gods to be far more believable than a single one as it explains contradictions and doesn't require the absurd fallacies being presented as arguments in this article to try and explain why a God who is apparently deserving of worship and loves us behaves in this manner.
A really quite astonishing article that reads like it was written by a besmirched child.
It's no wonder church attendance is so low when this is the level of discourse that is stooped to by someone so in the public eye.
Shame really, I know a bunch of intellectuals who would present far more reasoned argument to Fry's comments, and even more who just choose not to comment as they don't see a point.
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Shock! Horror! Someone vehemently says they don't believe in a god and why..and people get upset.If they didn't want the answer why ask..
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Indeed. It's so old, passe, and Stephen Fry so irrelevant.
Though the comments section on the few hundred words of butthurt Tim Stanley wrote as it is so old, passe, and irrelevant is pretty entertaining. I highly recommend it.