[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

In the last three years a slew of housing is full of eastern Europeans undercutting local labour who can't undercut back as they have all the bills many migrants don't bother themselves about. Nothing against the eastern europeans id do the same in their position but expecting british youth to compete with them is ridiculous. Have a guess which generation usually says "I won't get out of bed for less then 25k" hint it isn't the young I can't believe how easy it has been for this government to get us all at each others throats at a time when cosy stitch ups have been the norm.

Actually, you will find that it was labour who let the first slew of migrants in saying that we would only get 15 000 and then apologized years later when it turned out that many, many more had come over.

Housing benefit bill has exploded because so many private renters have been allowed to charge stupid rents and rather then anyone telling them to come back to planet earth we hit those who have no other choice great plan.

Stop talking rubbish. I'm sick and tired of people sounding off about rents and landlords.
Have you done the maths? Have you looked at house prices, looked at buy to let interest rates+solicitors fees+stamp duty+arrangement fees+estate agent fees+capital gains tax. Then looked at what the rent a landlord needs to charge in order to break even on his/her investment?
If you had done the sums (and I have) you would have found that the profit margins on what landlords make are slim (and that's before you take into account the threat of labour getting into power and bringing in rent controlls/another recession dropping house prices and thus rental incomes). Stop your populist whining and join the real world.

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Apologies if my criticism of Thatcher's cynical bribery disguised as housing policy was misplaced.

No, that I agree about. It was all about buying votes.
In spite of the fact that you will never get a left wing supporter to never ever admit to the great socialist ideal having had a failure.....

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

All political colours use and abuse the welfare system when it suits them hence none of them implementing real meaningful reform just piecemeal cost cutting dressed up as reform and swallowed whole by a large selection of the public. We minions spend so much of our time tearing each other apart on the belief of political ideologies that don't really exist anymore no matter what colour the monkey wears scratch the surface and they are all the same. Politics has stopped working in the interests of the people and the state a while ago and now only works for the vested interests that give them the best return, there may be a few genuine ones left but less and less each general election.

As far as able to work is concerned if anyone can say that walking 20 metres even if in pain and not able to repeat everyday of a five day week is fit and able then we really are in trouble . I live across the road from a school and that is over 30 metres away how many people live within 20 metres of their job ?. People need to stop taking the word of politicians on anything and look for themselves as what your told and what's actually happening these days is rarely ever the same.