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Originally Posted by Chris

They never learned.

It's amazing how many people think that the conditions that prevailed on the day they passed their test, and the characteristics of the car they were driving at the time, are the only thing they ever need to know.

(When we had a Zafira I was forever pointing out to Mrs T that a large, diesel-engined car with a six speed gearbox could not be expected to perform the same way as a five-speed, petrol Nissan Micra, and should not be driven as if it was one).

We see some right clowns along the road here, which is a long, remote, rural access route that only gets gritted if icy weather lasts more than a couple of days. The poor farmers are forever replacing stretches of fence where cars have just slid off the road.

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